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Jumpingfist · 04-03-2016, 04:41 PM

All the kingdoms 565s need to be looked at. Seems many of the champion recruitable adjustments made between beta 1 and 2 were never implemented. I noticed others we not removed as well as some not added.
SO comes to mind as one of the biggest having much more than listed in the newest document. I think the SO has 7 recruitable 565 types but the dossier lists only 2. But there are many so please adjust all not just the two mentioned.

unclemike · (This post was last modified: 04-03-2016, 11:41 PM by unclemike.)

(04-03-2016, 04:41 PM)Jumpingfist Wrote: All the kingdoms 565s need to be looked at. Seems many of the champion recruitable adjustments made between beta 1 and 2 were never implemented. I noticed others we not removed as well as some not added.
SO comes to mind as one of the biggest having much more than listed in the newest document. I think the SO has 7 recruitable 565 types but the dossier lists only 2. But there are many so please adjust all not just the two mentioned.

Hang on here. No need to get your panties in a bunch. Those documents are nearly four months old and may not reflect what's in the code. Let's give Ry Vor some time to update everything. I sent him the latest version of the code so he can update his documents but it may take a while since quite a bit has changed since Dec 10, 2015 when those dossiers were created...

Jumpingfist · (This post was last modified: 04-04-2016, 02:40 AM by Jumpingfist.)

Nice I am guessing implying I am wearing panties(perhaps but not today) and that they are bunched up is not a personal attack.

-As of 12/7 the SO setup (beta 2) had Apes/Goblins/Hill Giants/Orcs/Saurus/Troll/Warg Riders
-Rick posted his kingdom dossiers document 12/8 which has the SO only having Saurus and Hill Giants
-a recent SO set up since 3rd cycle went live the SO has Apes/Goblins/Hill Giants/Orcs/Saurus/Troll/Warg Riders
-I could verify all kingdoms but at a glance the 565 champions were never updated from the document, not that a lot of thing have changed because they have this just was not one of them

The reason for my original post was not as an insult to your code. It was because another player is using a set of links which you said before we should be using to reflect what is in the code as a guideline for selecting a kingdom. It does bother me if someone is effectively not getting what they thought they were paying for so I mentioned it. I would guess Rick my not have even been aware that the 565 troops had not been coded based on his document. For sure most players did not know.

I knew this when you posted use the links for what has been implemented in the code. But, I said nothing because as I said my goal is not to insult you or the code. I am really only trying to help my fellow gamers be on equal footing.

Ry Vor · 04-04-2016, 03:48 AM

I take responsibility on this. So Mike produced test setups for all kingdoms for me to review, and ensure who gets what as was intended is in all four places: the summary dossiers we published for consumption on all kingdoms, the dossiers going out with setups, the code, and my documentation.

It should be settled soon. I don't think there are many discrepancies.

Diamond Cutter · 04-04-2016, 11:27 AM

This game is visible to me in the old order input page but not the new one. Not a big deal but just checking if it's supposed to be that way or no.

unclemike · (This post was last modified: 04-04-2016, 12:39 PM by unclemike.)

(04-04-2016, 02:38 AM)Jumpingfist Wrote: Nice I am guessing implying I am wearing panties(perhaps but not today) and that they are bunched up is not a personal attack.

-As of 12/7 the SO setup (beta 2) had Apes/Goblins/Hill Giants/Orcs/Saurus/Troll/Warg Riders
-Rick posted his kingdom dossiers document 12/8 which has the SO only having Saurus and Hill Giants
-a recent SO set up since 3rd cycle went live the SO has Apes/Goblins/Hill Giants/Orcs/Saurus/Troll/Warg Riders
-I could verify all kingdoms but at a glance the 565 champions were never updated from the document, not that a lot of thing have changed because they have this just was not one of them

The reason for my original post was not as an insult to your code. It was because another player is using a set of links which you said before we should be using to reflect what is in the code as a guideline for selecting a kingdom. It does bother me if someone is effectively not getting what they thought they were paying for so I mentioned it. I would guess Rick my not have even been aware that the 565 troops had not been coded based on his document. For sure most players did not know.

I knew this when you posted use the links for what has been implemented in the code. But, I said nothing because as I said my goal is not to insult you or the code. I am really only trying to help my fellow gamers be on equal footing.

The panty reference was only a figure of speech. If you took it personally then I apologize since it wasn't my intent. I was just trying to lighten things up a little, that's all.

About the Help Guides page, that area has the latest version of documentation and player aids so I recommend everyone should reference those versions rather than others or something that you picked up on the forum. A lot of ideas float around on the forum but it doesn't mean that the game will play that way. The Help Guides area will always have the latest version of the documentation and player aids so reference those. We just need some time to update those files after 3rd Cycle was released.

If there's anything ever in doubt, always refer to your turn 0 kingdom setup. That has the version that the game actually goes by and is the most recent version for your kingdom. If there's ever an enhancement to your kingdom (like I hope regarding the Tyrant being allowed to recruit War Machines), I'll notify you personally via email from support or if there are a lot of games affected then I just may post a note about it on the forum.

So reference your turn 0 kingdom setup first then the documents at Help Guides for info about your kingdom.

unclemike · 04-04-2016, 12:34 PM

(04-04-2016, 11:27 AM)Diamond Cutter Wrote: This game is visible to me in the old order input page but not the new one. Not a big deal but just checking if it's supposed to be that way or no.

That will cause problems for you. Please read step #13 on the instructions on how to use the new website: http://kingdomsofarcania.net/forum/showt...9#pid32189

It says to use the older website for 2nd Cycle games and the newer one for 3rd Cycle. The two are not interchangeable. You may lookup your 2nd Cycle games on the new website's home page (for turn, due date, and kingdom reports from the lower right corner of the page) but that's all.

All the 3rd Cycle games that were created so far have started in the #500-series so use the new website for those games. All other games are 2nd Cycle so use the older site. If you try to submit orders for a 3rd Cycle game using the older website then your orders will not be processed by the program (and vice versa).

BTW, I just logged in with your username/password and everything is fine where I saw all of your games. Again, only 3rd Cycle games will display on the various menu tabs like Political or Magic and 2nd Cycle is limited to just the Home page.

Atuan · 04-04-2016, 02:00 PM

Mike I think the issue is this. I log in. I look at the rules documents http://fallofromegame.com/alamazeorders/...lement.pdf and its not accurate. There is a more updated version of this an other documents but its not in the place where people go to validate. It causes confusion and errors. I shouldn't need to go to 12 different places to find out what the actual rules and set-ups are like when we a correct version.

Note I do understand not having all the time to finish writing it but if that's done, lets get the correct version up.

Second Note. We all do greatly appreciate the work both of you do to make a game we all enjoy.

Diamond Cutter · 04-04-2016, 11:20 PM

That link works for me, TY