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Hawk_ · 04-21-2014, 02:58 AM

(04-20-2014, 05:27 PM)Wynterbreeze Wrote: Would love to hear from anyone that has ever tried to use an agent to steal an artifact from the wild. I know Kevin has had poor luck, anyone else? I can't find in the rules or commands that it is even possible.

When an article is posted from the creator you hope it is a factual account of how it really works. Is the chance to succeed and be caught the same for when stealing from a kingdom?

I'm not asking for game breaking math, just a hint at where to start.

TDO stole an artifact from the wild on the last turn of game 105. Maybe he will comment on that.

Jumbie · 04-21-2014, 06:10 AM

Can't say for certain, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that stealing from the wild was made more difficult in 2nd cycle so articles written about 1st cycle may not apply to the current games.

Wynand · 04-21-2014, 05:03 PM

(04-21-2014, 03:45 PM)Wynterbreeze Wrote: How about an answer from Cypher.

I've recently done this successfully.
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04-21-2014, 05:20 PM

Don't know of anything for me to contribute, this seems a pure learn from play area.

DuPont · 04-21-2014, 07:53 PM

Personally, I think stealing from the wild should be banned.

Lord Diamond · 04-22-2014, 11:55 AM

(04-21-2014, 07:53 PM)DuPont Wrote: Personally, I think stealing from the wild should be banned.

I do as well. I greatly, immensely, dislike that. Also, 'hugely' and 'very much so'.

Hawk_ · 04-22-2014, 01:06 PM

(04-22-2014, 11:55 AM)Lord Diamond Wrote:
(04-21-2014, 07:53 PM)DuPont Wrote: Personally, I think stealing from the wild should be banned.

I do as well. I greatly, immensely, dislike that. Also, 'hugely' and 'very much so'.

But isn't that how Bilbo gets the ring? And what about the Arkenstone?

Seems like my agents die all the time. They might as well die while trying to get an artifact instead of kidnap an envoy.

04-23-2014, 12:37 AM

There is no baseline, each artifact has a modifier v theft

DuPont · 04-23-2014, 03:32 AM

(04-23-2014, 01:12 AM)Wynterbreeze Wrote: There is a baseline of 10% for "average" artifacts for a lvl 4 for stealing from players. What is that same value for a "average" artifact in the wild, for a 4th lvl agent? Please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oECHJECzfLg

Ry Vor · 04-23-2014, 08:14 PM

(04-23-2014, 03:31 PM)Wynterbreeze Wrote:
(04-23-2014, 03:32 AM)DuPont Wrote:
(04-23-2014, 01:12 AM)Wynterbreeze Wrote: There is a baseline of 10% for "average" artifacts for a lvl 4 for stealing from players. What is that same value for a "average" artifact in the wild, for a 4th lvl agent? Please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oECHJECzfLg

Brilliant!

see if this helps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiT_5cr3tYI