Diplomacy Spell vs Human City

[iriani]

Are the leaders already factored in bc they are used to determine the group vs pop value?

[wfrankenhoff]

Yes, leaders are already factored in via the group versus pop center value

[Brogan]

I've had a group of 6k with a p3 take a city with 25k defense.

I've also had a p4 with a group of 5k take a city with about the same defense from the regional controller at the time, and DuPont was good enough to raise its gold production for me after I took it. That guy just gives and gives. <3

Don't forget that regional reaction plays a huge if not the most important factor. For example going from tolerant to friendly cuts the difficulty in half.

[Wynand]

I've had a group of 6k with a p3 take a city with 25k defense.

I've also had a p4 with a group of 5k take a city with about the same defense from the regional controller at the time, and DuPont was good enough to raise its gold production for me after I took it. That guy just gives and gives. <3

Don't forget that regional reaction plays a huge if not the most important factor. For example going from tolerant to friendly cuts the difficulty in half.

I have seen a P-4 with a group value of 10K fail a 171 against a tolerant human controlled city, with no 310s the previous month.

[Hawk_]

I've had a group of 6k with a p3 take a city with 25k defense.

I've also had a p4 with a group of 5k take a city with about the same defense from the regional controller at the time, and DuPont was good enough to raise its gold production for me after I took it. That guy just gives and gives. <3

Don't forget that regional reaction plays a huge if not the most important factor. For example going from tolerant to friendly cuts the difficulty in half.

I have seen a P-4 with a group value of 10K fail a 171 against a tolerant human controlled city, with no 310s the previous month.

I think RR is pretty huge. I failed with a 20K group and a power 2 versus a town with a defense of 9600. Regional Reaction was suspicious